RESPECTFUL RESPONSE TO OPPOSITION
Dear opposer,
As a devotee of Swami, I'm sure you are aware that He said the following:
Evil thoughts and evil actions are rampant everywhere You cannot remain a mere witness to these happenings. Placing your faith in God, you have to fight evil forces as a human being.
SSS 28.28: 23 October 1995, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume28/sss28-28.pdf
Elders in the nation are remaining mere spectators of all the unrighteous and violent actions that are being done by the evil elements. Even the scholars and intellectuals are remaining silent. Persons holding high office are merely watching what goes on. No one, however, is making any effort to stop this menace. They are not resisting the evil elements. It appears as if all their knowledge, position and influence have been reduced to nothing. Such persons, though they may not be indulging in unrighteous acts, are giving encouragement to them … When evil and injustice and violence are being perpetrated, if individuals look on unconcerned, they must be regarded as accomplices in the crimes. In the end they also suffer as much as the criminals. By their passive association, they provide encouragement to the evildoers.
When the good are associated with the wicked and do not oppose them, they share responsibility for the deeds of the evil doers. The Divine destroys even those who either do not oppose or remain passive while injustice and wrong-doing are perpetrated. The Divine will not consider whether they are learned or ignorant, wise or unwise. If they are learned or wise, why did they not stand up for truth and justice? Why did they remain silent? It means they are tainted by the same guilt. The failure to resist evil is their offense. It is only when we resist acts of unrighteousness and injustice and try to put down malpractices in society that we can claim to be assisting in the task of restoring Dharma ... Whoever may commit an offense, whether a son, a relation or a close associate, one will be free from the taint of being accessory to the crime only if he opposes the wrong action and tries to correct the offender. If, on the contrary, he allows it or encourages it to be done, he will be guilty of abatement.
SSS 19.23: 11 October 1986
As a devotee of Swami, I'm sure you are aware that He said the following:
Evil thoughts and evil actions are rampant everywhere You cannot remain a mere witness to these happenings. Placing your faith in God, you have to fight evil forces as a human being.
SSS 28.28: 23 October 1995, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume28/sss28-28.pdf
Elders in the nation are remaining mere spectators of all the unrighteous and violent actions that are being done by the evil elements. Even the scholars and intellectuals are remaining silent. Persons holding high office are merely watching what goes on. No one, however, is making any effort to stop this menace. They are not resisting the evil elements. It appears as if all their knowledge, position and influence have been reduced to nothing. Such persons, though they may not be indulging in unrighteous acts, are giving encouragement to them … When evil and injustice and violence are being perpetrated, if individuals look on unconcerned, they must be regarded as accomplices in the crimes. In the end they also suffer as much as the criminals. By their passive association, they provide encouragement to the evildoers.
When the good are associated with the wicked and do not oppose them, they share responsibility for the deeds of the evil doers. The Divine destroys even those who either do not oppose or remain passive while injustice and wrong-doing are perpetrated. The Divine will not consider whether they are learned or ignorant, wise or unwise. If they are learned or wise, why did they not stand up for truth and justice? Why did they remain silent? It means they are tainted by the same guilt. The failure to resist evil is their offense. It is only when we resist acts of unrighteousness and injustice and try to put down malpractices in society that we can claim to be assisting in the task of restoring Dharma ... Whoever may commit an offense, whether a son, a relation or a close associate, one will be free from the taint of being accessory to the crime only if he opposes the wrong action and tries to correct the offender. If, on the contrary, he allows it or encourages it to be done, he will be guilty of abatement.
SSS 19.23: 11 October 1986
This being the case, perhaps you should review your criticism of both a realised saint whom Swami referred to as His sister [Mata Amritanandamayi of Kerala] and who is far beyond your understanding, as well as those devotees of Sai who defend His teachings on Dharma, by opposing those who would twist them in order to make money.
Amma is an elder, revered by millions all over the world as a Self realised master. She is the only living holy person I know of whom Swami Himself recommended devotees to visit.
She also opposes what she sees as wrong in the world, in accordance with Swami's teachings. Note that Swami said here: "Elders in the nation are remaining mere spectators of all the unrighteous and violent actions that are being done by the evil elements. Even the scholars and intellectuals are remaining silent. Persons holding high office are merely watching what goes on. No one, however, is making any effort to stop this menace. They are not resisting the evil elements. It appears as if all their knowledge, position and influence have been reduced to nothing." He then goes on to say that those who look on unconcerned when crimes are being perpetrated are accomplices to those crimes.
Amma does not sit by and keep quiet about Madhusudan's activities as she sees the harm they are causing to devotees everywhere. It is very interesting that you not only sit by and say nothing like the elders Swami speaks of here, but also tacitly defend Madhusudan by using Swami's teachings to attack those who oppose him.
Amma is an elder, revered by millions all over the world as a Self realised master. She is the only living holy person I know of whom Swami Himself recommended devotees to visit.
She also opposes what she sees as wrong in the world, in accordance with Swami's teachings. Note that Swami said here: "Elders in the nation are remaining mere spectators of all the unrighteous and violent actions that are being done by the evil elements. Even the scholars and intellectuals are remaining silent. Persons holding high office are merely watching what goes on. No one, however, is making any effort to stop this menace. They are not resisting the evil elements. It appears as if all their knowledge, position and influence have been reduced to nothing." He then goes on to say that those who look on unconcerned when crimes are being perpetrated are accomplices to those crimes.
Amma does not sit by and keep quiet about Madhusudan's activities as she sees the harm they are causing to devotees everywhere. It is very interesting that you not only sit by and say nothing like the elders Swami speaks of here, but also tacitly defend Madhusudan by using Swami's teachings to attack those who oppose him.
You speak of those who criticise others as not being realised, of not following Swami's nine point code of conduct. Yet Vivekananda, whom you claim to revere, criticised the Christian missionaries for slinging mud at Hinduism and said, "And whenever your ministers criticise us, let them remember this: If all India stands up and takes all the mud that is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean and throws it up against the Western countries, it will not be doing an infinitesimal part of that which you are doing to us."
Was he not Self realised? He stood up against a wrong that needed to be pointed out.
He also criticised the Theosophists (in their absence) for the scorn he showed them at the Parliament of Religions in 1893. Was he not Self realised? He revealed the hypocrisy of a sect who, after his successes in the West, claimed that it was as a result of their groundwork.
Was he not Self realised? He stood up against an untruth spread by a group of people who claimed to follow a group of invisible masters.
Was he not Self realised? He stood up against a wrong that needed to be pointed out.
He also criticised the Theosophists (in their absence) for the scorn he showed them at the Parliament of Religions in 1893. Was he not Self realised? He revealed the hypocrisy of a sect who, after his successes in the West, claimed that it was as a result of their groundwork.
Was he not Self realised? He stood up against an untruth spread by a group of people who claimed to follow a group of invisible masters.
Speaking of untruths and criticisms, perhaps you are not aware that Madhusudan himself criticises Swami as having only taught primary school level spirituality and Puttaparthi itself of only being a spiritual primary school? At the same time, He praises himself as teaching high school spirituality and says that Muddenahalli is a spiritual high school.
Do you visit Swami's Mahasamadhi? Perhaps it will interest you to know that Madhusudan claims that those of us who visit the Mahasamadhi are not even looking for Swami? And that Narasimha Murthy says that those of us who do not believe in Madhusudan and his claimed invisible 'subtle body' drama, simply do pradakshina of a stone tomb while doing nothing for Swami?
Do not be so quick to criticise before knowing the facts of this situation. If you wish to be silent, be silent. But don't criticise those who try to follow Swami's teachings by speaking up for the truth. The nine point code of conduct is not an absolute rule to be followed without discrimination, nor is it a rod to beat others with. As Baba Himself said, "When the good are associated with the wicked and do not oppose them, they share responsibility for the deeds of the evil doers."
Do you visit Swami's Mahasamadhi? Perhaps it will interest you to know that Madhusudan claims that those of us who visit the Mahasamadhi are not even looking for Swami? And that Narasimha Murthy says that those of us who do not believe in Madhusudan and his claimed invisible 'subtle body' drama, simply do pradakshina of a stone tomb while doing nothing for Swami?
Do not be so quick to criticise before knowing the facts of this situation. If you wish to be silent, be silent. But don't criticise those who try to follow Swami's teachings by speaking up for the truth. The nine point code of conduct is not an absolute rule to be followed without discrimination, nor is it a rod to beat others with. As Baba Himself said, "When the good are associated with the wicked and do not oppose them, they share responsibility for the deeds of the evil doers."
Regarding those like Madhusudan who claim to act as a medium for Swami, Swami said: "I never speak through another. I never use another or possess another physical vehicle to express Myself. I am not a ghost or spirit to do so, to need some medium. I come direct, I speak direct, I come as I am or as I will to come in fresh created Forms. I do not use weak vacillating human vehicles; I confer boons straight and without any intermediary."
At Yelamanchili, He said, "Persons who claim to be possessed by Me have appeared recently; order them out, wherever you meet them. Do not yield to such morons and fakes, and lower your own dignity as devotees". Devotees of Baba are advised by Him to be ever vigilant against the subtle pulls of the sinister and the secret; when the Avathar has come and is so accessible and free with Grace, it is sheer stupidity to say the least to lionize the diseased and the deliberate crooks.
SSSun Vol 2, p.202, http://www.vahini.org/downloads/sathyamsivamsundaram-II.html
"There is another set of people who trade on your faith. They advertise that I am 'talking' through a medium or some other thing. Treat all such people and their agents or brokers as you treat cheats; if you do not treat them so, then you are also accomplices in the cheating process."
SSS 2.51: 25 November 1962, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-51.pdf
"Some others are swept off their feet by hysterical demonstrations by certain weak minded individuals who are described as My speaking through them or acting through them! Take it from Me, I am not given to such absurdities! I do not use others as My media; I have no need to…. Their gestures, words, and actions are hollow and vain; those who burn incense before them and revere them are turning away from Me and running after falsehood."
SSS 2.31: 4 March 1962, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-31.pdf
Note that Swami Himself calls such people morons and fakes. He also says that those who do not oppose such cheats are accomplices in the cheating process.
At Yelamanchili, He said, "Persons who claim to be possessed by Me have appeared recently; order them out, wherever you meet them. Do not yield to such morons and fakes, and lower your own dignity as devotees". Devotees of Baba are advised by Him to be ever vigilant against the subtle pulls of the sinister and the secret; when the Avathar has come and is so accessible and free with Grace, it is sheer stupidity to say the least to lionize the diseased and the deliberate crooks.
SSSun Vol 2, p.202, http://www.vahini.org/downloads/sathyamsivamsundaram-II.html
"There is another set of people who trade on your faith. They advertise that I am 'talking' through a medium or some other thing. Treat all such people and their agents or brokers as you treat cheats; if you do not treat them so, then you are also accomplices in the cheating process."
SSS 2.51: 25 November 1962, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-51.pdf
"Some others are swept off their feet by hysterical demonstrations by certain weak minded individuals who are described as My speaking through them or acting through them! Take it from Me, I am not given to such absurdities! I do not use others as My media; I have no need to…. Their gestures, words, and actions are hollow and vain; those who burn incense before them and revere them are turning away from Me and running after falsehood."
SSS 2.31: 4 March 1962, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-31.pdf
Note that Swami Himself calls such people morons and fakes. He also says that those who do not oppose such cheats are accomplices in the cheating process.
For myself, Swami is my guru, however as you do and as He Himself taught, I revere those saints whom Swami blesses our world with. In the matter of Madhusudan's actions, I would rather take the advice of both what Swami Himself has said, along with the advice of a Self realised saint whom Swami Himself has recommended. As you mentioned, Swami often used to quote the Rigveda, 'Ekam Sat Vipra, Bahuda Vadanti' 'That Being is only One, the Wise call it by many names.'
I would also like to respectfully advise you, when you use caps locks for your comments you are yelling at those with whom you are communicating. Kindly speak softly and sweetly with the people here. That is also in the nine point code of conduct.
I would also like to respectfully advise you, when you use caps locks for your comments you are yelling at those with whom you are communicating. Kindly speak softly and sweetly with the people here. That is also in the nine point code of conduct.
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